Starbuxman (23:45:02): trying to defend firewalls should be a crimeELITE BOO (23:46:17): I'm not defending them, they're just the facts. and besides, if you try to make it a crime, the computer world would laugh at your faceELITE BOO (23:48:02): by the way, trying to download from nbci was a bitch, I had to create my own html file to link to them, twice! Starbuxman (23:48:40): The facts are that a simpler, cleaner system is the way to go. Virus protection, firewalls and other nonsense only hinder progress. and the firewall would indeed prevent an installation if it was one of the many free programs/craps/variables on the Internet. Every time I send a file to someone on AIM they have to turn off the firewall. It's a waste of time.Starbuxman (23:48:58): And NBCI isn't a bitch (or if it is, don't say it), they use PHP, well Starbuxman (23:49: 08): and sexy apacheELITE BOO (23:50:24): I always had a firewall on while you sent me something by goal and I never had to turn it off, that shows it all what you know about ELITE BOO (23:50:25): mStarbuxman (23:50:52): hey sir, I know a lot. Kevin has a firewall. he has to turn it off.ELITE BOO (23:51:01): without having a firewall installed on your PC is stupid performanceELITE BOO (23:51:27): so Kevin's firewall sucks or it didn't configure Starbuxman correctly (23:51:49): and you're the one using it - you're the one lacking knowledge. performance - another reason why firewalls can suck - they are one more thing that inhibits my computer's performance. :52:41 PM): If a firewall is underperforming your computer so much that you notice it, then obviously your computer sucks. Starbuxman (11:52:59 PM): My old computer sucked. Starbuxman (11:53:13:00): and in these cases, not only all of the above, but also expensive. Basically, there is no single reason to use firewalls but to protect yourself from yourself. Starbuxman (23:53:14): hardware. oy.Starbuxman (23:53:29): Now you're making it an expense too. no thanks.ELITE BOO (23:55:33): sure it's expensive, but it's a one-time payment for 24 hour protection... and how the hell can you say that just using a firewall is to protect